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21 January 2013 @ 02:40 pm
Too Big to Solve?  
Not my tagline, but a good description for the Mystery Hunt that just happened. One line of dialogue after last year's Hunt that I led with in my wrap-up was a question of when is too soon for a Hunt to end. I said, in this era of a few competitive teams trying to grow to get over the winning hurdle, constructors aiming bigger was a mistake. The Hunt ending after 36 hours (Midnight Saturday) is fine if that makes the solving experience stretch over the weekend for everyone else. I won't comment generally on this year's effort but it seems a great example to point back to of too much ambition by too many people towards the further militarization of the size of Hunt so that by 2025 the team "The whole of new USA" can go after the coin against "USSReunited" for at least a month. The sense of "puzzle" versus "grindy work" is also a discussion I have every year and I don't choose to repeat myself. I've felt since 2008 that the Mystery Hunt is far from an event I'd regularly attend in person although I'm glad to have finally been onsite to play with Team Luck with whom I've been a "free agent" now for three years.

I had a good solving year as things go relatively, but it was mostly demoralizing personally. I soloed Palmer's Portals, for example, but spent many hours after basically solving 8/10ths with a need to tweak a very small and underconstrained set of things to get from that hard work state to a finished state. At some stage I told the team "I'm going to solve Portals and the Feynman meta and then go sleep" and I met this goal but in many times the expected time when I gave the statement. I led the solve of both Danny Ocean (with zebraboy stating the most necessary last bit to get my work over the cliff) and Richard Feynman (with Jasters). I obviously co-solved lots of the logic puzzles and other puzzles, and gave various finishing help to a range of things too. I think I did this best for "Kid Crossword" once when he had spent a lot of timing mastering the hard steps of a crossword/scrabble puzzle -- and could quite impressively fast rewrite out the set of steps I wanted him to do about the puzzle -- and the follow-up steps were not obvious but I led the killing of the beast. This was too often the feel for these puzzles, and my assassination rate was far lower than I wanted. My Sunday was spent earning 3 puzzle answers by actually going to an event, and then falsely believing the power to buy some answers would let me finish solving the Indiana Jones mini-metas -- where I had already mostly soloed Adventure 2's snakes with 5/8 answers, but then killed myself dead on #1/Ouroboros for the rest of the day for so long solving, as many solvers will say in hindsight, the puzzle that was meant to be in one of a dozen ways and not the puzzle it was. Let me state here as I did for hours with my team, the phrase "I'm not cut out for this" is horrible flavor. It implies both cut this out and, in a different way, also don't cut this out. This makes you want to cut it out, which takes a lot of time, but also to not invest too much time in cutting it out, so as to save the wasted time of doing a task you are being told not to do. Other wordings are far safer, and implied negatives within positives is one of the five worst flavor failure modes in my opinion. Puzzle editing and flavor text is an art and is certainly the biggest variable from year to year and constructing team to constructing team.

So yeah, Mystery Hunt happened. And there were the usual share of overwhelmingly incredible Aha moments. Endgame seemed very fun and I wish all teams could do just that for the weekend or at least a lot more things like that. More of that, and more sleep, would have both been some good choices this year. If only the puzzles solved on schedule.

ETA: And as I added far below around comment #300, as a solver who was both frustrated yet had fun in this Hunt, I do want to thank everyone on Sages for the incredible effort they put in. Making a Mystery Hunt is a gift for all solvers whether it matches expectations or not, and as a mostly thankless job I do want the constructors and editors and software engineers and graphic designers and cooks and phone center workers and everyone else to know I appreciated all you did over the last weekend to give us several days together for puzzling.

Further, as I was asked to write a larger piece elsewhere that has given me personally a lot more attention as the face of the criticism, and as I use the phrase "My team" a lot in general as solving forms this kind of bond, I want to be very clear: since Bombers broke up after 2009 I have been a free agent. I have solved recently with Team Luck but am not a core part of their leadership and these opinions I state are my own. I intend to form my own team next year to go after the coin again, and if you have a problem with what I have said anywhere on the internets, please hate me for it. I believe in my posts I have been offering constructive criticism, but even what I have said is without all the facts of what went on inside Sages so I could easily be speaking from ignorance a lot of the time.

EFTA: Thanks to tablesaw for pointing out this chronologic feature of posts. If you want to see all the additions to this post in time sorted order, go here http://motris.livejournal.com/181790.html?view=flat. We're on page 14 at the moment.
 
 
 
Dr. C. Scott Ananiancananian on January 24th, 2013 06:18 pm (UTC)
Re: Poor kids
Editing first-time puzzle constructors can be socially challenging as well: they've put N hours into constructing a puzzle, and then are told they need to go back and reconstruct it from scratch in order to make it better (which they didn't expect).... and then rinse and repeat that process several more times. Also, "I need an answer so I can start writing my puzzle" -> "I'll assign you an answer once you describe how your puzzle works" -> "How can I tell you how my puzzle is going to work until I have an answer?"
Andrewbrokenwndw on January 24th, 2013 07:51 pm (UTC)
Re: Poor kids
Yes. The internal social aspects of running a Hunt are hard to appreciate from the outside. Not doing that better may be my biggest personal regret from 2011-2012.
ze top blurberry: driftingztbb on January 25th, 2013 02:37 am (UTC)
Re: Poor kids
This is very true. For the hunts we wrote, we had someone with the official title of "designated asshole", and that was pretty helpful.
Thouis R. JonesThouis R. Jones on January 25th, 2013 03:08 am (UTC)
Re: Poor kids
Present. We've strongly urged every team we've talked to about constructing to have such an individual. I don't know if it's actually that that necessary, but we found it helpful. My primary tasks were to relay Chris's comments to constructors (as my own), allowing him to be blunt while protecting the feelings of constructors towards him, and to hold the keys to getting a puzzle in the hunt (again, essentially bookkeeping with Chris actually making the decisions).
Dr. C. Scott Ananiancananian on January 25th, 2013 03:34 am (UTC)
Re: Poor kids
Hm, Codex didn't have such a role. We fought vigorously among ourselves as an admin team, over the usual high-level issues (metas, test solving, unlock process, etc), but as I recall we were pretty united as editors and testers against the authors. ;)

We had a lot of authors getting mad at *us* (why don't I have an answer yet, why aren't you giving blind solvers more to do, why am I not more involved with xyz) but I don't recall having to be unusually blunt or assholish to an author.

Different team dynamic, I guess. Or maybe I'm just blocking out how much of an ass I was/normally am.
Thouis R. JonesThouis R. Jones on January 25th, 2013 03:40 am (UTC)
Re: Poor kids
Yeah. I think it might have worked well for us because of personalities. It may have just been useful to have it as a separate role, to allow Chris to work on just editing and higher-level organization, and me dealing with the nagging and bookkeeping of what was done or needed to be worked on.

Also, the person I was mostly an asshole to was Chris himself, making him work on the hunt every day after work (when we shared a house) for three months or more.
Andrewbrokenwndw on January 25th, 2013 03:52 am (UTC)
Re: Poor kids
Technically we had an Ombudsman, and I think he was called in once or twice.

I think by and large our authors, testers, and editors were respectful of each other's jobs. But there are definitely counterexamples that I can remember, that you can probably also remember, and which I won't cite directly...
Adam R. Woodzotmeister on January 25th, 2013 05:14 am (UTC)
Re: Poor kids
An ombudsman is a great idea. I wish Beginner's Luck had had one for the History Hunt. In the earlier planning stages of things, editors were actually extremely helpful and guiding. For example, my own SeekingSyren^WScotchy would have been a disappointment had dalyraug not kept sending me back to the drawing board, explaining *why* certain concepts wouldn't work. It was not unlike solving a Hunt puzzle - an "a-ha" hit me, and when I next went to Nathan I knew what I was presenting him was a good puzzle, and it was accepted as such.

What happened later on in the development cycle was, again not unlike the process of solving a Hunt where people get unnecessarily pissy as it drags on, the editors stopped being communicative or friendly and starting harping on things. It was made aware to me at one point that I was declared a "problem" puzzlesmith by this shadow government because I "refused" to edit my (admittedly but very intentionally) eccentric flavortext to match the rest of the round's theme. I put that word in quotes in that last sentence because it wasn't true: I hadn't even been asked to consider it! An ombudsman would have prevented this false, damaging, and frankly offensive rumor about me spreading amongst the rest of my team. [Incidentally, the guilty party in starting that falsehood about me never has come forward.] Sometimes I wonder if that rumor still lingers, as I often still have great difficulty getting anyone to listen to me when I have puzzle/meta solution thoughts during the Hunt...

I think "establish an ombudsman" - and that is exactly the role, not "asshole" or somesuch - should be a Cardinal Rule for teams authoring a Hunt. Someone should serve as a filter, someone otherwise detached from the construction and editing portions but with the proper understanding of the needs of both sides, to deal with any issues that crop up from either side of the process.

AJDdr_whom on January 25th, 2013 04:16 am (UTC)
Re: Poor kids
On the Mario Hunt, we had a Team Harasser—appointed most of the way through the year—whose job was to hassle authors into finishing the puzzles they said they'd write. I don't know what we would have done without her.
(Anonymous) on January 25th, 2013 11:46 pm (UTC)
Re: Poor kids
I don't know...I may have been the Asshole at times.